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What Happened to ILoveJackDaniels.com?

In April of 2008, the people responsible for the Jack Daniel's trademark contacted me and asked me to stop using the name "ILoveJackDaniels", and URL "ilovejackdaniels.com", for my site, and to change the logo.

Own goal?

I think so. Not many companies have widely read websites named in tribute to their product. Even fewer have websites named in tribute to their product that get more traffic than their own product's website. Deciding to threaten them with legal action seems counter-productive. It offends the marketer in me.

And?

No More I Love Jack Daniel's

Ultimately, the big guys got their way, and ilovejackdaniels.com has had to go. I don't believe I've misused their trademark but I'm not in a financial position to argue.

I agreed to change the logo immediately (as you may have noticed if a regular visitor) as it was designed in tribute to the Jack Daniel's one and I can appreciate their concern that it was a bit too close to the original.

So the site has been rebranded and moved to a new domain, and the vast majority of the content (some of the out of date stuff has been removed along the way) is still here.

The Jack Daniel's folk have agreed to allow me to redirect the old domain to the new for a period of time (until at least June 2009), after which they intend to remove the redirection from the domain and break everyone's bookmarks and links. Always helpful.

On that note, I have been contacting major bookmarking sites asking them to update saved bookmarks once the site has been moved. I will post more about this later, once all the replies are in, and will be writing about the problems involved with moving the site as well, as I came across some interesting issues I'd not encountered before when moving smaller, less established sites.

Ultimately, I decided to try to treat the Jack Daniel's issue as an opportunity, rather than the disaster I initially thought it was. The whole thing gave me a great reason to clean up and rebrand the site, and I've had fun working on it for the last few weeks - so while this has been an unpleasant experience, it's not been entirely negative.

Added Bytes?

Added Bytes is new! It's essentially a replacement for ILoveJackDaniels.com, but (hopefully) without any trademark issues. Over time, I hope it will become as useful to the wider design, development and marketing communities as I always hoped ILoveJackDaniels.com was.

Still love Jack Daniel's?

Umm. I know it should taste the same - they've not changed the recipe after all. Yet for some reason, I find myself drawn to alternatives. After some hard work sampling several alternatives, I can so far highly recommend Bulleit and Woodford Reserve. Any suggestions for other drinks to try always gratefully accepted.

What about the cheat sheets?

No change to the cheat sheets, except that they now say "Available free from AddedBytes.com" instead of "Available free from ILoveJackDaniels.com". They're still free, and still released under a creative commons license.

Actually, thinking about it, there are a couple of changes. The entire series is being re-designed and re-released. All the originals are still available (and always will be) if you prefer them, but I think the new ones are smarter and cleaner. And more accurate.

To get the ball rolling, I have re-released the CSS, PHP, mod_rewrite (I reckon this is probably the most improved) and Regular Expressions cheat sheets. The others are all coming along nicely and I'll be re-releasing most of the rest over the next few weeks (some will be "retired" as they are out of date - they'll still be available, but won't be updated the the new format).

You can also now request new cheat sheets and vote for requests you'd like to see turned into real cheat sheets - see the right hand side of the cheat sheets section or any of the cheat sheets pages.

Was this always planned?

The idea of changing the name and domain of the site had crossed my mind before. Although I don't sell my services through this site, it still reflects on me professionally, and the old name, while highly memorable, didn't exactly conjure up the sort of image I was after.

Ultimately, while the thought had on several occasions crossed my mind to change, I had decided against it. I liked the old name - it was personal. It wasn't trying to be clever or stuff keywords where they don't belong. It was interesting and memorable, which are both rare qualities in domain names. I will especially miss giving my old email address over the phone.

In Conclusion then ...

The old domain is pointed here, and I will endeavour to keep that redirect up as long as I possibly can. The cheat sheets are all being re-released with a shiny new look, and you can request new ones. The site also has a shiny new look (which I'll write more about shortly). My new email address is dave@addedbytes.com. And I need a new nickname if I ever plan to use IRC again.

149 comments

Is not fair! The next time you see them, kick these guys (Jack Daniels gang).

The worst of this, are the new colors, they don't like me. I will miss the old page.
Sorry to hear that Jack Daniels forced you into this, though I am excited that you're treating it as a new starting point.

Will the old RSS feed still work, or do we need to update?
Thanks Alex :)

Feeds will work fine for a while yet. I hope there will be no update required, but am not sure yet - it may depend on your feed reader. I'll be writing about any feed issues further down the line, and will make sure anyone getting an old feed gets plenty of reminders to update if needed later.
Well done to Jack Daniels! They have successfully managed to make themselves look childish and petty, as well as removing some great free advertising. I could understand if you were selling stuff which was in some way encroaching on their turf but you weren't.
Good luck with the new layout/site - it looks better already.
 United States #5: June 30, 2008
Too bad, I really liked the old domain, but I guess they have to protect their trademark.

Bulleit is ridiculously good bourbon, as well - and it's usually a steal, $10-15 cheaper than anything of comparable quality. Maybe not <em>quite</em> as good as Woodford, but it's very close.
Julian
Unknown #6: June 30, 2008
Everyone knows you don't use a trademark as part of a domain...
Your site is great.. I'll keep following it no matter the name ;-)
Jono: My thoughts exactly. Thanks - and glad you like the new look.

Greg: Bulleit is great :). I understand they need to protect their trademark, but there seems to be a feeling among large companies that they have automatic rights to anything featuring their trademark, which quite rightly isn't the case.

Julian: It's not quite that simple. Yes, there's a risk with using a trademark in a domain name. But then when I started this site I never thought it would become as popular as it did, and thought changing (if I needed to) would be fairly simple and inconsequential.

And on that note, I was wrong. As to whether the usage of the trademark was allowed under existing trademark law ... well, I'm not a lawyer, but it seems to me it should be covered by nominative fair use. However, I don't have the resources to find out if that's the case.

Dieter_be: In that case, I will endeavour to keep writing! I've been a bit quiet recently, but I have a good feeling about the new look and new name.
Sorry to hear that u had to moves to another domain, but the new name quite catchy though. I guess i need to update my google reader, Considered to use feedburner?
btw, i never say thx before for all the cheatsheet,
Thx dave!
Congrats on the delicous relaunch, very lovely.

Sorry to hear you don't love Jack Daniels any more, but I can't say I blame you; I haven't been a fan of the malty liquids since... the accident. Perhaps White Russians would be your new fancy?
Dian: All feed URLs should work just fine - all directed through feedburner already. But you are of course welcome to update your URL(s)!

I'm not quite done with the feeds yet, but I think I can do most of the work on updating the URLs from here. Certainly feedburner and bloglines make a lot of it easier, but I still have lots to do.

Feeds will work for a long while yet though, so no need to rush to update or anything crazy like that.

Joen: Thanks - glad you like it. I'll add White Russian to the "to drink" list.
Dan
United Kingdom #12: July 1, 2008
Glad to see you're taking this in your stride. Hope the rest of the move is as hassle free as it can be...

Yup, move up to the real bourbons - add Wild Turkey to your quaffing list ;)
Chucky Del Fresco
Unknown #13: July 1, 2008
Bummer dude. However, I do like the new name. logo looks clean.

I gave up on Jack after I discovered Tequila and tonic. 2 limes please.

I updated my saved version of the cheat sheets to get rid of the "jackdaniels" wording. ;)
Hey Dave, did the kind souls at Jack Daniels buy the domain from you or did you give it them for free?
Dan: Consider it added.

Chucky: Thanks. And thanks :)

Cormac: Neither, so far. I still own the old domain, and am negotiating with them about its future. I would like to permanently redirect it, so old bookmarks (over 25000 on del.icio.us alone, that can't be updated except by their owners) and links continue to work indefinitely. And they want to take it over and turn it off in June 2009, breaking all of those links and bookmarks. I'll update here when that's all worked out.
I can't imagine they would be pissed with a permanent redirect from iljd to addedbytes. After all, you are conceding to their requests in an honourable manner. They might as well show some honesty themselves by meeting you half way.
 Scotland, UK #17: July 1, 2008
I represent Bytes sandwich bar and feel I must object to your new domain name. My lawyers will be in touch shortly ;)
Sorry to hear your dilemma (awaiting the Ian Fleming estate to get in touch about my domain name) - it's amazing what the Man will do when they feel threatened by the small guy.
Keep up the good work Dave - your cheatsheets have been an invaluable addition to my coding repertoire!
PS why not switch to some good ol' single malts. Old Poultney or Highland Park perhaps?
Damn! I'm the only person who put their name as their location!
Woops. I'm on auto-pilot this morning with forms. :(
 Lisbon, Portugal #19: July 1, 2008
Man, this is crazy... Really really an own goal. Those graphs show them who's the boss. :-)

Maybe they would prefer an ihatejackdaniels.com. Uh, it's available... =-#
Cormac #1: That was my thinking in agreeing to everything without making a fuss. I had hoped that if I played nice, they'd agree to the permanent redirect.

One thing that bugged me immensely was that they've known about this site for years, and it's taken them until now to bring it up as a problem. Had they mentioned it in 2003 when I registered the domain (or even as late as 2005), it would have been a complete non-issue.

Cole: 2 more drinks on the list - thanks. I think I might need to write something to keep up with all of these suggestions. A drink-log app maybe.

Cormac #2: You could always pretend you have a town named after you. :)

daniel: Haha, nice. I think I've had enough of trademark law for now though. :)
Heh, one of the Spanish sites linking here has a few comments on the renaming (at http://meneame.net/story/jack-daniels-obliga-cambiar-nombre-dominio-ilovejackdaniels.com ).

I rather liked this, loosely translated:

"He should have called it IUsedToLoveAFamousTenesseeBourbon.com"
Seems very petty to me, its not like you were trying to sell a competitor product or anything

Bulleit bourbon has recently replaced JD as my late night coding drink of choice. I've drank JD for nearly 7 years now, but Bulleit has recently won me over with its smooth taste. Its just very hard to get hold of, none of my local off licenses stock it :(
 United Kingdom #23: July 1, 2008
Like a few others that have left comments on here, I have followed and read Ilovejackdaniels.com for a long time now and can't believe the forced name change. Seems highly unfair for you to build up and achieve a great rank amongst many other sites for nothing. All my bookmarks have been updated.

Never commented before, but thanks Dave, keep up the good work, more updates :)

As for drinks suggestions, Jaegermeister all the way.
Garrick Saito
United States #24: July 1, 2008
I like the new site and domain name, Dave. I believe it will be every bit as successful (if not more)l as the old one, if not more. My best wishes go out to you.
Fuzzy: Bulleit is readily available near me. Good news. I've yet to have a late night coding with it though to really put it through its paces :)

arkin and Garrick: Thankyou both.
John Gee
texas #26: July 1, 2008
A great drink just like JD is Evan Williams. Love your cheatsheets and can make good use of them. New site name is much more appropriate, but I will miss the old one ;-(
 Barcelona, Spain #27: July 1, 2008
That's sad. The problem is they have to be seen to defend their TM so as not to loose it - the incentive therefore is to go after the 'small fish'.

What about scotch? Oban is a great whisky. Thanks for providing a great resource.
Dave
Unknown #28: July 1, 2008
Maybe you know this, but I'm pretty sure JD can't make you give up ownership of any domain. It is your property. Please get a quick (free) consultation from a lawyer before giving anything up! A logo is one thing, but the domain was purchased fair and square. I'm sure their letters make you nervous, but that's their intent. Know your rights before you agree to anything.

This is a capitalist country, you have something a large corporation wants. This means you get money.
This whole situation makes Jack Daniels look petty. I love bourbon whiskey, and JD has been my drink of choice for the last couple of years, but this is a good reason for me to switch back to Jim Beam. I know this will have zero impact on the JD folk, but it's important to me where I spend my money, and as a web developer AND bourbon lover...
John & Adam: Evan Williams and Oban added the the list. I am going to have a serious headache in August.

Dave: Interesting thought, thankyou. I'm in the UK, but I'm not sure how that affects the issue, as the site is hosted in the US ... it's messy.

Bryan: Between you an me giving up the JD, and the removal of a domain that can't have done their brand any harm, I'm sure they've probably lost out. Not sure they'll notice the loss though!
Jess
United Kingdom #31: July 1, 2008
Just Stumbled Upon your regex cheat sheet; I can forsee it coming in very useful :)
Complete bummer about the domain name; I only just started drinking JD on Saturday night, but now I'll need to find a new bourbon of choice. They seem rather insensitive, especially considering you were pretty much advocating them :/
... One more reason to support net neutrality, kids :)...
 United States #32: July 1, 2008
I recommend Maker’s Mark.
Flotsam
Unknown #33: July 2, 2008
I've always been a gin and tonic kind of bloke - I found that Jack Daniels and other bourbons left an unpleasant after-taste. I guess you must be feeling the same way now.
Jess: Hope the Regex sheet comes in handy.

Bryan: Maker's Mark certainly is tasty. On the other hand, it's also made by the same company as JD.

Flotsam: Quite. Never got on with G&T myself. I heard you had to be a middle-aged woman crying on the stairs to really enjoy gin properly.
Flotsam
The Aussie Tropics #35: July 2, 2008
Dave, I live near the equator in a mosquito-infested rainforest. The quinine in the tonic is far more palatable than malaria tablets :)
Flotsam: What a sales pitch for G&T ... "Gin and Tonic - tastes slightly better than malaria tablets" :)
I like with this site and I think the name is a good choice.
MKTG_GOD
Indiana #38: July 2, 2008
As a marketing professional, I could spend pages explaining why this was a bad idea on their behalf, but I won't b/c I know when I'm preaching to the choir.

Sorry for their ignorance.

Nevertheless, this is a tremendous resource that I (and many others, I suspect) have come to depend on. Whatever the branding, I appreciate all you've done for the programming novice.

Thank you!
 United States #39: July 2, 2008
Losing the domain sucks but what sucks the most is losing your PageRank, the Compete, and Alexa ranks too!

I recently changed my permalink structure, and dropped the wp date thing in favor of /blog/, with no ill effects. I also noticed that your site has loads of 404... I couldn't leech the new cheatsheets, well not all of them :P

To change my permalink I used 2 wp plugins:

1. Dean's Permalinks Migration by http://www.deanlee.cn/wordpress/permalinks-migration-plugin/

2. 404 Notifier by http://alexking.org/projects/wordpress

The Permalinks Migration plugin doesn't change the .htaccess file but does redirects on the fly.

Hope it helps... it worked for me.

BTW, I'm really sorry about this, and I was wondering what was going on since I didn't see any changes in the feed. A friend linked me to your new site...
Jim
United States #40: July 2, 2008
Personally, I've always felt George Dickel Sour Mash, comparable in price to JD, is vastly superior.
Bleyder: Thanks :)

MKTG_GOD: I'm glad you find it useful, and hope you continue to on the new domain. Thanks to you and the other contributors at http://forum.phpvideotutorials.com/showthread.php?t=1706 for your kind words of support.

chris: I had a little server issue earlier that caused some 404s - should all be sorted now though. I'm not using WP here, so can't use the plugins you suggested, but I appreciate you taking the time to tell me about them.

Jim: I've not seen that over here before, but will keep an eye out for it.
Try Powers, it's the real Irish Wiskey. You will love it!

Keep up the good work and thanks for the cheat sheets.
Chris
Germany #43: July 3, 2008
ILoveJameson.

Thank you for the cheat sheets.
I'm a lawyer and you MAY have had a right to continue using jackdaniels in your domain name but you took the smart route and changed it. Trademark disputes can get really messy.

P.S. Try Maker's Mark- it is my favorite bourbon. Much smoother than JD.
I have been a long time fan.. really miss the previous logo and the look... and the super awesome name for a technology site....
the stark contrast in the name and the content of the page was awesome before... lot more appealing than the geekish addedbytes....
But then... the corporations get their way!!
Glad to see you are all ready to go ahead... Well, so are WE....
All the best
Dave - bummer :O(

I see http://ilovealocholingeneral.com is still free... but it's just not the same thing is it? ;O)
Love the new name Dave and it's good you could snap up the domain for such a short memorable name too.

Phooey to Jack Daniels but you know what, I reckon the change will be good for you in the long run.
I love the new name. Kinda not surprised JD went after you but it sure them long enough! We'll all follow you around, no matter what you call yourself.
 United States #49: July 4, 2008
Oh, my! I dropped by to check a cheat sheet and I see 'Added Bytes". I was so confused!

It's a shame you had to change your domain. Pretty silly, too. You wouldn't think they'd have such an issue with it- as a few people have been saying, you weren't selling anything, and you pretty much gave them free advertising. But, oh well. A fresh start should be fun.

Regardless, you do an awesome job with your site, and a name will never change that.
 Russian Federation #50: July 4, 2008
Well, what is better: having everyone use "Jack Daniels" and serve as walking billboards (even on the Web), or have a site that gets less traffic, than the one done in one's free time, and nothing else?

To this day, I considered Jack Daniels to be a good brand. Not any more. How's that for "trademark protection"?

Sheesh, their marketer should be forced to read Seth's and Guy's blogs from cover to cover.
Rodney, Chris: Thanks, and whiskies (sp?) added :)

Tracy: I think you're probably right. Whether or not I had a right to use it, it's prohibitively expensive to find out.

Siddhartha: I'm just glad I could find a two-word dotcom I liked! I thought they'd all be gone by now :)

Paul: No. Although ILoveBourbon.com might work.

Sophie: Thanks - that's what I'm hoping too. I think being on this domain also opens some doors that were closed before. I'd specifically never done anything commercial with the previous site, in part because of the name. Now, I can try different things without worrying about them being construed the wrong way. Including promoting myself, which I'd avoided on the old site!

Kim: Indeed it did! Thanks :)

Eka: Thanks :)

Yura: Not the best way to promote oneself. I'm half tempted to send them some juicy articles and books on the art of reputation and brand management online.
Thank goodness you have the redirect on! Don't know if I would have found you if I'd gotten a 'not found' or something.

Have changed the links to you that I could find on my blog and bookmarks.

p.s. love the disclaimer "Comments with keywords instead of a name have their URLs removed." fantastic idea.
you could always try bushmills or here in aberdeen try the trail:

http://www.maltwhiskytrail.com/theTrail.asp

theres a nice brand they have here you can get it from the grill in union st in a variety of ages 5 10 or yes! 20 year - think its called o'callahans but will have to get back to you on that one.
WebGyver
United States #54: July 8, 2008
Am I the only one who's worried about your liver?

Seriously, thanks for all the good stuff that I-LOVE-JACK-DANIELS has provided to the rest of us over the years. I can't even begin to tell you how glad I am that you're still around (especially when I have to go back to some Classic ASP troubleshooting).

As a non-drinker, I always had a sheepish grin on my face when I checked out something on your old web site. By the way, at least your encounter with Corporate wasn't as atrocious as this one: <a href="http://snipurl.com/2uxpg">http://snipurl.com/2uxpg</a> or this one: <a href="http://snipurl.com/2uxq9">http://snipurl.com/2uxq9</a>.

You should bring your issue to the attention of Kurt Denke at <a href="www.bluejeanscable.com">www.bluejeanscable.com</a>. He used to be a lawyer and recently made the headlines when he successfully called the bluff of another corporate entity who wielded the lawsuit club.

Keep on keeping on! We're all with you!
kristarella: Thanks :). The comment thing was inspired by people leaving comments with names like "LA Web Design". Doesn't seem to have had much effect, but it does mean that those leaving decent comments with proper names or nicknames get the benefit of links.

Alex: More to try - good stuff!

WebGyver:

> Am I the only one who's worried about your liver?

Not at all. The list of suggested alternatives to JD is getting substantial!

On that note, after a few weeks of trying a few different things, I'm definitely a Bulleit fan - very nice stuff.

Thanks for the URLs - unpleasant stories to be sure.
Three words for you my friend:

Jameson\'s

Irish

Whisky

I\'ve always loved your site, the new one is well designed as well. Keep up the work !

brent
@
mimoymima.com
Josh Atkins
Hampshire, United Kingdom #57: July 9, 2008
Bad luck Dave - shame the Jack Daniels guys have to be so protective of their trademark (we seem to have entered an age of IP totalitarianism, where the big boys are dumping pathetic lawsuits on Mike Rowe, et al.).

Nonetheless, you seem to have made the best of it - the new site looks great, and the new cheat sheets look great from a quick glance. I\'m even noticing the improvements using the comment form!

Thanks for such a great site with great posts and cheatsheets, and good luck for finishing of the redesign (actually this seems in a way more like a \"realignment\" (à la A List Apart), which is awesome).
Josh Atkins
Hampshire, United Kingdom #58: July 9, 2008
Bad luck about the domain Dave, but I guess in this age of anti-Mike Rowe IP totalitarianism we aren\'t given a lot of choice, although like you said you\'ve made the best of it - the new site is awesome, I\'m even noticing the improvements using this comment form! :).

Thanks for the great (new) site and great (new) cheatsheets.
Josh A.
UK #59: July 9, 2008
Hmm... my comments aren\'t appearing. Probably my fault. Sorry for the double (now triple) posts.
 United Kingdom #60: July 10, 2008
Hmmmmm.... can't understand these big companies sometimes. They must have far too much time on their hands for this kind of thing. Actually I quite liked the scribbled out version of the logo earlier on this page - very striking. I can't understand their 'bullish' attitude of We are taking over this domain" thing though. How can they do that without offering you recompense. And what if you happened to actually to know someone called Jack Daniels, and love him (only a thought).

Sometimes though, a new design, new name etc can be just what you needed to give you a bit of a kicking, sprucin' and a new way of looking forward.

The new logo is spot on, the colours are classic and striking. I like.
Brent: Thanks :). Jameson's is fine, for what it is, but I find I prefer bourbons and similar. Nevertheless, as you mentioned it, I shall revisit!

Josh: I had caching turned on following some heavy traffic issues, so your comments were posted, but didn't show. Sorry about that - the caching was hastily put together. The slashes are a result of my host resetting php.ini, again (putting magic quotes back on). I'll sort this out shortly.

LJC: Thanks very much. And you're quite right about the sprucin' etc - as a result of this, I'm learning my way around linux administration, as well as looking at moving to a new platform for the site (bblog has been declared dead), all of which is giving me lots to write about. The new cheat sheets stuff is going great too - lots of new ones on the way.

I miss the old site - I had more free time ;)
Hey, I love this blog. The design is well - superb.
Former Jack Lover
Unknown #63: July 13, 2008
Just seconding John Gee's suggestion of Evan Williams. Around here (Portland, Oregon, USA) it's less than half the price of Jack, and sips just as nicely.
giving them the domain doesn't make sense.
not using it is as your brand name is one thing, but not using it for redirecting to the new site? why only until june 09 and not forever?
This simply doesn't make any sense.
I will write about it in my blog soon, at least you'll get a link to the new site...
emo: Thankyou.

FJL: I've heard a lot about Evan Williams - trying to get hold of a bottle now.

Yair: Thanks, and I appreciated your blog post (and the link). You're right, a lot of this doesn't make sense.
I believe there was nothing wrong in the domain !! You can have anything like ... Googlesucks.com to Ilovegoogle.com ...
Wow - just heard about this from Sphinn Dave. I'll update the links I have to you and the cheatsheets. Really sad of JackDaniels to do this, that's put me off ever buying another bottle too.

Keep well
CRAZY! They have slammed you for advertising your love for their product. They are idiots their marketing people must have offices in the same building they make it ffs

This sites attracts a target audience intelligent enough to not confuse the brand with...well another brand lol Is that not what matters in the world of copyright and trademarks etc

It was no threat to their business the viewers of this site are old enough to buy JackDaniels. So it was free advertising (I bought a bottle the night I first found this site) and we are smart enough to make what they obviously see as a problem WORSE just because we CAN :)

Someone mentioned www.ihatejackdaniels.com and its taking!
gia certified diamonds
UK #69: July 23, 2008
The thing about the copyright and the trademark makes a little sense.
I wouldn't fight them over the domain name. but wtf is the issue wih redirect only until 06/09?
This is stupid. Why would they care to let you keep the domain to redirect your old traffic?
I really can't see a reason why they would do that.
Can't you insist on keeping the domain just to redirect the traffic forever? Having the domain in order to redirect the traffic to the new domain doesn't violate any of their trademarks.
Just the thought about them running a new site on that domain, a site that has gazzilion of links form day 1 makes me very angry at them...
Jared
United States #70: July 28, 2008
I intend on never having Jack Daniel's after this. Boycott!
Ankit, Jared: Thankyou for your support :)

Nick: Thanks. Link updating is proving far harder than I anticipated. All my emails to people linking to me effectively look like link exchange requests, making it very difficult to get anywhere. I think I run the risk of actually losing links doing it this way. A new tactic is needed.

"gia": Thanks for your comment. I entirely agree and will continue to try to have the domain redirected permanently.
Ryan: That's made my day. That domain wasn't registered a few weeks ago! It'll be interesting to see what turns up there.

I had a look on the whois and it seems whoever registered it did so by proxy, whatever that means.

http://whois.domaintools.com/ihatejackdaniels.com

Quite possible it was the Jack Daniels people themselves who registered it, of course, and didn't want to be seen to be slating their own product. A sort of pre-emptive strike against someone else doing it.
Ken
USA - Georgia #73: July 29, 2008
I would love for them to show what part of the trademark code you are infringing upon...

So much for the "Good Ol' Boy from Tennessee" front they want us to believe.
They are just as corporate as anyone (and I mean that in a bad way)...

Well, keep up the good work here.
Hoggwild (lisa)
Somewhere in Southeast Tennessee #74: August 5, 2008
Being from Tennessee, I can honestly say that I haven't touched the stuff since my early 20s -- a good (way too many) years ago.

BTW, did you know the distillery in Lynchburg Tennessee is in a prohibition (dry) county? A wee bit of trivia.... They make it, but they kiaynt draynk it (hard to write in Tennessee twang -- say it just like it's written) :) The official tasters have to sniff, sip, swish and spit.

Switch to single malt scotch.

LOVE the CSS cheatsheet, and the one on mod_rewrite is awesome.

Keep up the good work!
There now appears to be a newly-installed WordPress blog at http://www.ihatejackdaniels.com/. I don't think it was registered in protection of their trademark...
mo
United States #76: August 19, 2008
I second the suggestion to try Bushmills. Especially Black Bush.
I visited a couple of times and though "someone stole ILoveJackDaniels stuff! Creeps!" but then I saw the "what happened to.." links ;)

If only this had happened to someone with money - I would have looooved to see JD lose a case like this.

All this because one person made a site waaaaaaay cooler than what JD could ever hope for.

P.S. - you don't have to give them the old domain do you?!
Genny
United States #78: August 20, 2008
Sorry to hear about the name change just because I always loved the look on other librarians' faces whenever I recommended your site. But, I'm glad you're still around!

As for bourbon recommendations, I used to be more of a Maker's Mark fan, but now my favorite sippin' whisky is Basil Hayden. Pricey, and worth it.
Gerry
Australia #79: August 21, 2008
Wow, I can't believe they did that.

I'm a big fan of the Bulleit and Cola 9% cans. I'm always happy when I drink it. :) But in the past I have bought jd, but no more! F them for doing this to such a great site and guy!

I added a comment to the blog and it's pending moderation, so I guess we'll see the true intentions of the site owner.

This is what I posted...

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jack daniels.... screw you you STUPID a#%holes!! You took your biggest supporter on the web, Ilovejackdaniels.com and you slapped them in the face by serving them with a legal notice and forcing them to change their name, domain and logo.

http://www.addedbytes.com/blog/what-happened-to-ilovejackdaniels-dot-com/

Aside from that fact that I feel sorry for you, because your company is apparently stupid... I am majorly pissed off that you would do this to such a great site, especially when they were not even infringing on your trademark!

I the past I have bought your product many times for myself and as gifts for others, but today you put a stop to that.

jack does not live here any more, Bulleit does:
http://www.bulleitbourbon.com/

It's a much better drink anyway.
Gerry
Australia #80: August 21, 2008
Wow.... I really should have proof read that, but apparently the anger got to me. Oops
Ken: I was accused of "passing off".

Lisa: Thanks. I had heard about Lynchberg being dry, but I had no idea the tasters had to spit - how quaint!

Jordan: No, quite right. At first I thought it might be a pre-emptive registration, but seems maybe not. Still interested to see what, if anything, is done with it.

mo: Consider it added to the list :)

David: They want me to give them the old domain in June. I am quite concerned about your first point though, and that's been a worry since the beginning. Effectively Added Bytes could be seen by anyone who is familiar with the old ILJD domain to be ripping it off. Don't know what, if anything, I can do to stop that though.

Genny: I always liked giving my email address out :)

Gerry: Thanks for your support. Bulleit is my top choice at the moment (though I've not seen Bulleit and cola cans over here in the UK). Lovely stuff and comparable price to JD.

You hear that, Bulleit folks? ILoveBulleit.com is available and would make a great present for an ex-Jack fan ... ;)
Gerry
Australia #82: August 21, 2008
An internet marketing blog has done an entry on this:

http://www.ybo-interactive.com/blog/2008/07/21/i-hate-jack-daniels-dot-com/
 Thessaloniki,Greece #83: August 21, 2008
We love you, your blog and your cheat sheets even if the name of this blog is "ddffxxccdd.com"

I am sure that other companies with more brains would pay someone to keep active a domain like this.
How about ilovewoodfordreserve.com? :P
Gerry: Looks like your comment was approved already.

Gerasimos: ddffxxccdd.com ... catchy ;)

Seologia: I don't know. I like it. Maybe ILikeWoodfordReserve.com? Or ILoveBulleitButIfItIsUnavailableWoodfordReserveIsAGreatAlternative.com?
 Thessaloniki,Greece #86: August 22, 2008
What about sleinadkcajevoli.com? just in case ddffxxccdd.com doesn't make sense :D
 United States #87: August 22, 2008
Fine work JD! What could have turned into a loving partnership (with someone who ACCIDENTALLY marketed your brand better than you) has now become your company's online embarrassment .

I don't drink JD anymore, and news of this will only further my avoidance of it. I've moved to Crown Royal -- add it to your list, Dave.
roto: Consider it added. At this rate, I'm going to need to set up a new blog just for whisky tasting and rating. Could be fun, actually ...
salle
Finland #89: August 22, 2008
I never really liked Jack Daniels. At least the non-aged (black label?) tastes bad... Jameson is my favorite!

Try Laphroaig, it's good also.
wman
Unknown #90: August 22, 2008
Single malt: Bowmore (12), Ardbeg (10), Caol Ila (12), Laphroiag (10), Talisker (10). Usually only Laphroiag is found in bars..

Irish stuff: Bushmills (10 yo AWA regular), Clontarf..

Blended: Rob Roy, Upper Ten.
Author said:
"Any suggestions for other drinks to try always gratefully accepted"

you mean any drink? if yes just send me your address to send you my home made "tsipouro". It's like ouzo but better. :D
Am I the only person thick enough to stumble upon the site, open a cheat sheet and think "wow, this looks a LOT like the ILJD cheatsheet" before noticing this post?

Yes, just me? Damn.
Sadly, Jon, you are far from the only person. I've had plenty of accusations from people thinking this site is a rip-off of the old one. Another unexpected bonus from this whole saga ...
Are they stupid or what? It's a tribute not a ripoff, someone really hurt his ass huh?

Maybe we should make another domain "Ihatejackdaniels.com" instead ..
this is really sad and very shortsighted from JD Company..obviously, they wanted the domain name. Meh, stupid really..
Bah. Poor show on their part, but no doubt your traffic will follow you along the pipeline of the web, especially with the redirect in place for a year. Gives everyone time to update their bookmarks. How are things panning out in Google? I'd say that was the biggest problem with a move like this.
wman
Unknown #97: August 25, 2008
Of course, I should probably learn how to spell LaphroAIg. I suppose that's what you get when you don't have a bottle handy.
Well, something to amend. Cheers!
JimK
United States #98: August 25, 2008
Since you own ILoveJackDaniels.com I think they should purchase this name that you legally own for some outlandish price. Other companies have had to pay for URLs, they should too.

Great site, great cheatsheets. My programming and web design students love them.
Wow I was surprised to see a new site, a new name and to learn that you have to give up the ILoveJackDaniels.com domain. Sorry about that.
In the bright side, the site looks awesome and (thank God) the cheat sheets are here (I have the Apache rewrite hanging in my cubicle).
I don't know many developers but everyone that I know I'm sending the new domain.
Good luck.
Wow, 100 comments. I have a warm glow ... the support has been tremendous, so thanks all.

@dezza: Someone's already registered that domain, but nothing there yet except for a vanilla WP install.

@markoh: You could well be right.

@Paul: Badly :). ILJD.com still ranks despite the redirect being in for two months now. Slowly does it though ...

@wman: Nice list :)

@JimK: Indeed they should. They've not made an offer though (except for the give-it-to-us-now one). I think they should have started with that though - this would have gone much smoother.

@Cris: Thanks, and glad you've found the cheat sheet useful.
I am guessing that the JD folks might be planning on a specific eventual use of the iljd domain name. I could envision them tying it in to a huge sport, like Nascar, and using it for contests, promotions, etc.

But then, that would require an understanding of basic marketing concepts, wouldn't it? ;-]

Thanks for the helpful information and very useful site, in spite of the problems you are having with this issue.
Wow I can't believe this actually happened. Thanks for telling the story. Though personally I don't think I could have found the bright side in this one, I admire your ability to have done so.

Oh yeah, I really like the new design (as much as that really matters for a site with great content) but it's a little off in Firefox. I'm sure you're aware of it but I thought I'd at least mention. Specifically, there are a bunch of horizontal lines appearing throughout the page. I think I was having a similar issue a while back and realized it had something to do with the -moz properties.
Gerry
Australia #103: August 31, 2008
Thanks for the udate about my comment being approved. I guess it sorta proves it wasn't JD then.

I went out with my housemate and a few friends tonight and before ordering my housemate, who is a contract lawyer, looks at the drinks list and says "hmmm... I think I'll get a jack and coke". Immediately I remembered that I hadn't told him about this whole thing and so spilled the beans. The first thing he said was "So they were selling a competing drink or something on the site?". I said no and explained that you "were" a fan of the drink and the site was a technology and coding blog and had very little to do with the drink. He looked puzzled and then basically said that he couldn't understand what their problem was if you weren't selling a competing product or pretending to be them.

Then we went on with other conversation and a while later the waitress came over to get our orders. He placed his order and subconsciously said "jack and coke". I of course did not expect him to boycot one of his fave drinks just because I am, but joking nudged him and said "Jack and Coke! What are you doing mate!", with a grin. Then very seriously he exclaims "OH! Right!". Swings around and grabs the attention of the waitress who is leaving our table and asks her if she can change his drink to a Bundi and coke. I laughed as this was pretty out of character for him, so I guess he lost some respect for them because of this.

Very funny and this is just a small example of how their JD's stupidity it going to hurt them well beyond the readers of this site. I would be amazed if this topic didn't come up again when he is drinking with his colleagues from work and then they will most likely tell others. Word of mouth works both ways.
Gerry
Australia #104: September 1, 2008
Oh.... and he also said "So what's the called now?".... I paused for a bit and then sadly said "Hmmm.... actually I can't remember, 'code bites', or something like that" :(

Maybe you should approach the Bulleit people
ILoveBulleit.com
I like it.... :)

...

After some crazy googling I was able to track down the company that does their PR:
http://fwv-us.com/page/our-clients

and a contact who seems to be doing a lot of their stuff:
French West Vaughn vice president Charles Upchurch:
cupchurch@fwv-us.com

I love the iternets.... sooo easy to get info.
Jose Velazquez
Mexico & UK #105: September 2, 2008
I havent been around for a while but i think its a bummer about the domain name. I really like the new website better.
I have to agree with all the others saying you should get big money from them if they want the domain name, and if they dont want you to keep it then i suggest you redirect to their competition for the last 2 months you have it ;-).

Anyway, i think this is the right time to say a big THANK YOU for all you'r much appreciated work.
@Ralph: That's a horrific thought. I have been wondering what might happen to the domain once they have it. Personally I'd prefer it just didn't resolve, but I can't see that happening.

@Adam: It was a tough search :). I am aware of the FF issue but haven't found a cause or cure yet. It's odd - any pointers appreciated.

@Gerry: Thanks :). I'm sure their image is important to them - they work hard at advertising it - which is why I'm surprised they didn't start with an offer to buy the domain. They must deal with plenty of issues like this, and I'm sure they don't want to be seen as a typical corporate bully, but that is how they've come across.

Trademarks have gone way beyond simple protection against a competitor using a company's name to sell their product. The laws seeem so vague that just about any use - even if in a way provided for explicitly by law - can be called infringing.

@Jose: You are very welcome :)
ilovemilk - i think no company will concern about this ;)

anyways I love Glen Fiddich more then Jack Daniels
That sucks. I didn't know Jack Daniels were such a$$holes. I don't understand how they got you to give up the domain - from a legal standpoint I can't see how there are grounds for even a case. I acquired iluvgoogle.org some time back (not developed yet); I hope the same thing doesn't happen to me. Being the giants they are (and having better things to do than go around being corporate bullies and picking on small fry like us) I don't think Google will bother though. Let's hope the